Alex Rogers spent twelve years as a U.S. Navy SEAL before a divorce, the end of his career, and twelve days in jail forced him to learn who he is apart from what he does.
Alex Rogers spent twelve years as a U.S. Navy SEAL with SEAL Team Three, including three deployments. He grew up around church in small-town central Vermont and accepted Christ at six years old. But he says that never meant he was submitted.
For years he lived a double life: hungover in church on Sundays, one foot in, knowing the right answer and refusing to fully give himself to it. His divorce was final in April 2025, and he left the Navy the next month.
A move to North Carolina, a low season, and twelve days in jail followed. With a King James Bible and a lot of time, Alex began to learn that what you do is not who you are.
Alex and Dan talk about whether a man can be tough, even capable of violence, and still be a Christian, why reconciliation comes before worship, the wounds underneath, and what it means to say Jesus is his two man.
This episode contains language some listeners may find objectionable. We chose not to edit it out. It also touches on suicide and on what kept him going.
Alex Rogers grew up in small-town central Vermont, around church, and accepted Christ at six years old. After a rough teenage phase, he took the road from the street to the seat that led to the SEAL teams, where he spent twelve years with SEAL Team Three and three deployments. Through all of it, he says, he was around church and Christianity without ever being submitted.
He is honest about the other half of that story. For years he lived a double life: partying and cheating on weekends, then showing up to church hungover. He says he cheated on his ex-wife for a long time, and that she has been supportive since. His divorce was final in April 2025, and he left the Navy the next month.
"I know it's the right answer, but I'm not going to fully submit."
A move to North Carolina in January 2026 brought a low season, and then twelve days in jail. There, with a King James Bible and courses on mindfulness and forgiveness, everything else was stripped away. Alex came away convinced that reconciliation comes before worship, and that when you have nothing else, that is when you find God.
Alex also takes on a question plenty of men carry quietly: can a man be tough, even capable of violence, and still be a Christian? He talks about the abandonment wounds underneath his choices, the lone-wolf mistake that kept him isolated, and why he now says Jesus is his two man, a reference to the teammate every SEAL stack depends on.
The conversation turns to ego as the enemy, to gratitude and generosity as the answer, and to the difference between judgment and condemnation. It also touches on suicide and on what kept him going. Alex is candid throughout, and so is the language, which we chose not to edit out.
"What you do is not who you are."
"Everything is temporary. What's not is the Lord."
"I know it's the right answer, but I'm not going to fully submit."
"I am enough. I am worthy. I am fearfully and wonderfully made. I'm a child of God. And that's all I need."
"Jesus is my two man."
"God's voice is quiet."